Monk "55 build" clarification - Page 2 - Guild Wars Forums

Fyre Brand · Dec 09, 2005, 12:48 AM // 00:48

Unless Superior Monk Runes have skyrocketed in the last few days they are actually cheaper than they have been in a long time. You can get each (and you want 5) for 8 - 9k from the trader or maybe 500g to 1k off that from a player. So you are only out a little less than 50k for the runes. Get Lions arch tatoos, they are cheap and your AL doesn't matter anyways. Energy boost from tats isn't that important but in some situations can really help, especially with my following suggestion.

When I first started my 'invinci' monk I could only afford 4 runes. I could have bought a 5th major rune and made do, but this is cheaper and easier. When you head out where ever you go, lets say Augury for example you just die. Take a 15% DP and it will bring you down. This is a pain in the butt, however it is much more effective than trying to do this at 130 health or whatever. It is actually better to have 15 or 25 health than 150 health.

darkMishkin · Dec 09, 2005, 09:45 AM // 09:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Age

Then what would you suggest then I am not paying close to 100k for superior runes?That is how much they cost almost as much as a Warrior superior absorbtion run at 100k more than a sigil.ATM I am useing minors.

Try buying 3 superior runes, then every trip out kill yourself once or twice, any health 11-55 should be an ok amount. Really though, 55hp farming isn't for poor people. And your faming won't be efficient if you have to spend 2 minutes dying each trip. As long as Protective Spirit exists there will always be a 55hp monk build, just fork over the cash and get ready to hate being a monk.

mish

Hendorr · Dec 09, 2005, 09:52 AM // 09:52

I'm a necro/mesmer and I always go with a 55hp monk in UW. (the monk is Laurson

)

It's a really strong combo in the UW, FoW or Desert. Monk goes tanking (and only tanking) and the necro does all the dmg.

Age · Dec 09, 2005, 10:03 AM // 10:03

This will take time though as I still want a superior absorbtion rune for my Warrior and maybe vigor.What about that for 55 Monk the vigor runes?I would still like to get Judges or Saintly armor as well but in the meantime I may go with Censor as I bought some in LA some time ago.

Barry Bethell · Dec 09, 2005, 10:06 AM // 10:06

God no! a vigor rune would put your health up, you can get the full set of sup runes for under 50k if you shop around and you'll have made that back in no time if you master uw farming.

ZainAhmed · Dec 09, 2005, 01:10 PM // 13:10

Just wanted to about the focus bcz i go the mission but the reward doesn't say -50.

So is it still -50 or did that get removed?

FFF_WarRaven · Dec 09, 2005, 01:10 PM // 13:10

Hey what do ya know a uw/solo tut, the search really does work, and on the first try even: SoLo MoNk This thread starts before all the nerfing, but ends after, it should give you the whole concept of solo monk'n :P

:::End Transmission:::

Volarian · Dec 09, 2005, 01:21 PM // 13:21

Try taking N/Mo as your running partner, things die allot faster than with a N/Mes - no energy problems and with the right items combo, fast casting and recharge capabilities for maximum dmg output.

Essence Bond pwns for the 2 man setup.

ZainAhmed · Dec 09, 2005, 05:14 PM // 17:14

Well in these forums someone posted that having a level 16 in Protection Prayers gives you 2 energy loss from Portective Bond but it DOESN'T; it gives 3 AND NOW I HATE THIS BUILD IT WAS A WASTE OF MY TIME(i think).

Anyway i try it with Prot. Spirit, which is a little easier to work with but 10% is no good for me i have 105 health and still tring to get that dam item.

Why i have posted is BCZ i need some advice. This farming build is difficult but most effective against warrior mosters. But i still keep dying since i dont regen. enough energy and bond ends.

So what should i change in my build:

1 h breeze heal
2 zealots attack
3 bonettis energy
4 b aura attack
5 b spirit energy and adrenaline
6 essence bond enegy
7 prot. bond OR prot. spirit
8 blessed signet energy

thanks in advance to those non-critisizers(spelling)

CKaz · Dec 09, 2005, 08:06 PM // 20:06

Just tailgaiting on this, I'm a N/MO (also be happy to N/ME for Sympathetic Visage and whatever else might be desired) - PM me if wanna tag team, I'd like to UW 8D

ZainAhmed - go spirit and get the item, add elite (SB or SoJ)
I might even have one of those -50 to sell

kimo the healer · Dec 09, 2005, 10:13 PM // 22:13

Protective bond got nerfed 3 months ago.
Also, it's alot more difficult to do this with 105hp. You need another sup rune.
(sorry, see post below) buy icon for 5-10k

Once your hp is 55, here is what you need.

Mending (+3 or more)
Balt spirit (for energy)
Essence Bond (for energy)
Divine Aura (increase duration of enchants)
Shield of Judgement (doing damage)
Zealot (so all your spells do damage)
Prot Spirit (10% damage or 5 hp per hit)
Healing Breeze

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZainAhmed

Well in these forums someone posted that having a level 16 in Protection Prayers gives you 2 energy loss from Portective Bond but it DOESN'T; it gives 3 AND NOW I HATE THIS BUILD IT WAS A WASTE OF MY TIME(i think).

Anyway i try it with Prot. Spirit, which is a little easier to work with but 10% is no good for me i have 105 health and still tring to get that dam item.

Why i have posted is BCZ i need some advice. This farming build is difficult but most effective against warrior mosters. But i still keep dying since i dont regen. enough energy and bond ends.

So what should i change in my build:

1 h breeze heal
2 zealots attack
3 bonettis energy
4 b aura attack
5 b spirit energy and adrenaline
6 essence bond enegy
7 prot. bond OR prot. spirit
8 blessed signet energy

thanks in advance to those non-critisizers(spelling)

Sir Edri · Dec 09, 2005, 10:27 PM // 22:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimo the healer

Also, it's alot more difficult to do this with 105hp. You need another sup rune.

He does have 5 superior runes on him...that's why it's 105hp he just needs the -50 icon to bring it down to 55hp

ZainAhmed · Dec 12, 2005, 08:12 AM // 08:12

Alright thanks ill try SOJ AND Divine Aura.

Age · Dec 13, 2005, 01:20 AM // 01:20

Why can't you use 5 major runes as it is -50 to superior -75 and I do have the grim cesta the -5 focus item?I have to think of skills as well and they are 1K for my monk and warrior getting close to it for my ranger.I was thinking of getting tattoos from stingray strand much cheaper than the forge.What is wrong with majors and they are in my budget?The only other way is if I bought gold online which i am not about to.

Valerius · Dec 13, 2005, 01:29 AM // 01:29

well... cause then u'd have 180HP... and taking 18dmg a hit isn't the greatest...

Fyre Brand · Dec 13, 2005, 01:41 AM // 01:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Age

Why can't you use 5 major runes as it is -50 to superior -75 and I do have the grim cesta the -5 focus item?I have to think of skills as well and they are 1K for my monk and warrior getting close to it for my ranger.I was thinking of getting tattoos from stingray strand much cheaper than the forge.What is wrong with majors and they are in my budget?The only other way is if I bought gold online which i am not about to.

Read the thread again carefully as well as the pointer link above. It is explained fairly clear why you need low health. Again, monk runes are probably cheaper than ever before. It doesn't really take that long of "regular" farming with any character in South Shiver to get enough gold to buy the runes. To say the only way you will get the gold to buy those runes is to purchase gold on ebay is an exaggeration and a boo-hoo whine. You've said in several posts that you want to spend money on several different characters and their needs. If you want to build this monk you will just have to focus for a while on it or come back to it later. It isn't the easiest thing in the game to instantly accomplish but it's very workable in a short period of time (lets say a week or so).

To explain again again why you need low health: Protective Spirit allows a maximum damage to you per hit of 10% of your health. So if you have 105 health you will take 10 damage per hit. If you have 55 health then you take 5 damage per hit. If you have 13 health you take 1 damage per hit. Believe it or not it is so much easier to maintain control of your health and the mops around you when you have low health. At 105, 130, or higher you will take too much damage for mending, breeze, and the divine bonus to keep up with. This is because of the cool down between spells that the spike heals from the divine bonus provide.

Retribution X · Dec 13, 2005, 02:45 AM // 02:45

There IS another build which uses prot bond... it works too...

Red Sonya · Dec 13, 2005, 03:01 AM // 03:01

What about Protective Bond, does it not work anymore? I notice the warrior gets a +3 energy per hit elite "Warriors Endurance" no way to use Protective Bond and this skill together here?

Also I found a -20 Health icon with +3 Energy always and +12 Energy < 33% health and +10 Armor <33% health would this be a good icon as well? This would make an 85 monk build wonder if dmg rounds up or down?

Also what are the attributes you guys are using? 16 healing?? 16 smite???? what what what?

Retribution X · Dec 13, 2005, 01:16 PM // 13:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Sonya

What about Protective Bond, does it not work anymore? I notice the warrior gets a +3 energy per hit elite "Warriors Endurance" no way to use Protective Bond and this skill together here?

Also I found a -20 Health icon with +3 Energy always and +12 Energy < 33% health and +10 Armor <33% health would this be a good icon as well? This would make an 85 monk build wonder if dmg rounds up or down?

Also what are the attributes you guys are using? 16 healing?? 16 smite???? what what what?

Um, it MIGHT, but i don't know. i'll have to try that. MY prot bond works fairly, as you have necro secondary... (blood Sacrifice! YEAHH!!!)

ChoKILLate[FDG] · Dec 13, 2005, 02:35 PM // 14:35

Hendorr,

What skill does the necro require...if I may ask?

Dec 09, 2005, 10:03 AM // 10:03	#24
Age Hall Hero Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Canada/BC Guild: STG Administrator Profession: Mo/	This will take time though as I still want a superior absorbtion rune for my Warrior and maybe vigor.What about that for 55 Monk the vigor runes?I would still like to get Judges or Saintly armor as well but in the meantime I may go with Censor as I bought some in LA some time ago. Last edited by Age; Dec 09, 2005 at 10:06 AM // 10:06..

Dec 13, 2005, 03:01 AM // 03:01	#38
Red Sonya Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2005	What about Protective Bond, does it not work anymore? I notice the warrior gets a +3 energy per hit elite "Warriors Endurance" no way to use Protective Bond and this skill together here? Also I found a -20 Health icon with +3 Energy always and +12 Energy < 33% health and +10 Armor <33% health would this be a good icon as well? This would make an 85 monk build wonder if dmg rounds up or down? Also what are the attributes you guys are using? 16 healing?? 16 smite???? what what what? Last edited by Red Sonya; Dec 13, 2005 at 03:15 AM // 03:15..

Dec 09, 2005, 12:48 AM // 00:48	#21
Fyre Brand Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Shadowlight Order [SoR]	Unless Superior Monk Runes have skyrocketed in the last few days they are actually cheaper than they have been in a long time. You can get each (and you want 5) for 8 - 9k from the trader or maybe 500g to 1k off that from a player. So you are only out a little less than 50k for the runes. Get Lions arch tatoos, they are cheap and your AL doesn't matter anyways. Energy boost from tats isn't that important but in some situations can really help, especially with my following suggestion. When I first started my 'invinci' monk I could only afford 4 runes. I could have bought a 5th major rune and made do, but this is cheaper and easier. When you head out where ever you go, lets say Augury for example you just die. Take a 15% DP and it will bring you down. This is a pain in the butt, however it is much more effective than trying to do this at 130 health or whatever. It is actually better to have 15 or 25 health than 150 health.

Dec 09, 2005, 09:52 AM // 09:52	#23
Hendorr Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Enschede Guild: W.o.F. Profession: N/Me	I'm a necro/mesmer and I always go with a 55hp monk in UW. (the monk is Laurson ) It's a really strong combo in the UW, FoW or Desert. Monk goes tanking (and only tanking) and the necro does all the dmg.

Dec 09, 2005, 10:06 AM // 10:06	#25
Barry Bethell Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: No Inherent Effect [NiE] Profession: W/	God no! a vigor rune would put your health up, you can get the full set of sup runes for under 50k if you shop around and you'll have made that back in no time if you master uw farming.

Dec 09, 2005, 01:10 PM // 13:10	#26
ZainAhmed Academy Page Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Earth Guild: I need a guild Profession: R/Mo	Just wanted to about the focus bcz i go the mission but the reward doesn't say -50. So is it still -50 or did that get removed?

Dec 09, 2005, 01:10 PM // 13:10	#27
FFF_WarRaven Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Behind the black shroud. Guild: FFF Profession: R/Me	Hey what do ya know a uw/solo tut, the search really does work, and on the first try even: SoLo MoNk This thread starts before all the nerfing, but ends after, it should give you the whole concept of solo monk'n :P :::End Transmission:::

Dec 09, 2005, 01:21 PM // 13:21	#28
Volarian Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Texas Guild: NOT-Nomads Of Turmoil	Try taking N/Mo as your running partner, things die allot faster than with a N/Mes - no energy problems and with the right items combo, fast casting and recharge capabilities for maximum dmg output. Essence Bond pwns for the 2 man setup.

Dec 09, 2005, 05:14 PM // 17:14	#29
ZainAhmed Academy Page Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Earth Guild: I need a guild Profession: R/Mo	Well in these forums someone posted that having a level 16 in Protection Prayers gives you 2 energy loss from Portective Bond but it DOESN'T; it gives 3 AND NOW I HATE THIS BUILD IT WAS A WASTE OF MY TIME(i think). Anyway i try it with Prot. Spirit, which is a little easier to work with but 10% is no good for me i have 105 health and still tring to get that dam item. Why i have posted is BCZ i need some advice. This farming build is difficult but most effective against warrior mosters. But i still keep dying since i dont regen. enough energy and bond ends. So what should i change in my build: 1 h breeze heal 2 zealots attack 3 bonettis energy 4 b aura attack 5 b spirit energy and adrenaline 6 essence bond enegy 7 prot. bond OR prot. spirit 8 blessed signet energy thanks in advance to those non-critisizers(spelling)

Dec 09, 2005, 08:06 PM // 20:06	#30
CKaz Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2005	Just tailgaiting on this, I'm a N/MO (also be happy to N/ME for Sympathetic Visage and whatever else might be desired) - PM me if wanna tag team, I'd like to UW 8D ZainAhmed - go spirit and get the item, add elite (SB or SoJ) I might even have one of those -50 to sell

Dec 12, 2005, 08:12 AM // 08:12	#33
ZainAhmed Academy Page Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Earth Guild: I need a guild Profession: R/Mo	Alright thanks ill try SOJ AND Divine Aura.

Dec 13, 2005, 01:20 AM // 01:20	#34
Age Hall Hero Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Canada/BC Guild: STG Administrator Profession: Mo/	Why can't you use 5 major runes as it is -50 to superior -75 and I do have the grim cesta the -5 focus item?I have to think of skills as well and they are 1K for my monk and warrior getting close to it for my ranger.I was thinking of getting tattoos from stingray strand much cheaper than the forge.What is wrong with majors and they are in my budget?The only other way is if I bought gold online which i am not about to.

Dec 13, 2005, 01:29 AM // 01:29	#35
Valerius Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Canada Profession: R/	well... cause then u'd have 180HP... and taking 18dmg a hit isn't the greatest...

Dec 13, 2005, 02:45 AM // 02:45	#37
Retribution X Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Check behind you again. Profession: N/	There IS another build which uses prot bond... it works too...

Dec 13, 2005, 02:35 PM // 14:35	#40
ChoKILLate[FDG] Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: [FDG]-Fudge Profession: Mo/Me	Hendorr, What skill does the necro require...if I may ask?